Friday, January 28, 2005

Jesus, the f-word & Church Picnics.

Someone recently responded to me concerning my post about the use of the f-word. Would Jesus use the f-word? That is a great question. My first reaction is who cares? There are people starving to death in our neigborhoods. The are children being abused all over the world. I imagine the only folks who would care are those who are defined by the law. The more I think about whether or not Jesus would use the f-word, the more I think it is something the church needs to consider, but not for the reasons one may suspect. I imagine the only place Jesus would use the f-word, if he were to do so at all, would be at church. I doubt he’d use it in the company of strangers just to fit in or be cool. I suspect that he would most likely use it to radicalize whatever law one has for not using it; particularly if not using it got in your way of touching those who don’t conform to your standards.

Of course I can only speculate what Jesus would do by reading about his character, nature and demeanor that is revealed in scripture. As a devout Jewish rabbi, I know that he broke numerous "laws"-- particularly those laws heaved on others by the devoutly religious voice that prevented folks from having authentic encounter with God.

The devoutly religious folks were more concerned that Jesus was healing on the Sabbath, thereby breaking the law, than they were human suffering. Jesus didn’t need to heal on the Sabbath, yet he intentionally broke the law to demonstrate a point. As the Face of God he formed the habit of including at the table and eating with those the devout religious folks excluded for not obeying the law to their standards. As the Face of God, he willingly broke the law prescribed by the dominant religious voice in order to establish intimacy with those who were labeled "sinners" by the dominant group. So if using the f-word would awaken the religious community to relaese those they hold in bondage through their understanding of the law and to help restore human wholeness, then I wouldn't be surprised.

If Jesus were to use the f-word , based on his life, he would only do so if NOT using it was a law (and therefore a stumbling block) in your religion that allowed you to label what was clean and unclean and thereby exclude and define who are the outsiders and who was pure and impure. In other words, if one was more concerned about following the law than loving one’s neighbor.

The reality is, I seriously doubt that Jesus would use the f-word, not because he was perfect, but more because of his state of consciousness. However, Jesus was great at shocking the devout religious folks in his society, so IF he did drop the f-bomb it would be very shocking and I imagine it would NOT be in front those who are pushed to the margins on account of their gender, sexuality, family heritage, ethnicity or disease.


If he were to drop the f-bomb it most likely be at the church picnic to the devout folks who least expect God to behave only like God could. The same God who comes in the womb of a poor, vulnerable peasant; the same God who rides on the back of an ass; the God who endures suffering at the cross; the God who parties at weddings; the God who befriends prostitutes; the God who draws in the sand and reminds those who have never missed the mark in God's sight to throw the first rock; the God who compels all to come to the table--that God just might shock those who
have mastered the law and thereby missed the heart of the God by excluding others from the community of God.

8 Comments:

Blogger jimmy said...

I had a proffesor that gave an interesting explanation of the story of the gentile woman coming to Jesus in Matt. 15.22. He said that when Jesus said, "It isn't right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs" it was the same in that culture as it would be to call her a profane name in our culture. Calling her a dog was the worst insult you could throw at someone.

I heard that Tony Campbolo said this once when he was invited to speak....I believe it was at some kind of graduation ceremony for a bible school, I can't be certain, anyway, here it is;

"The world is going to hell in a handbasket and the church doesn't give a shit. And the reason the world is going to hell in a handbasket is because you are more upset at the fact that I just said shit, than you are at the fact that the world is going to hell in a handbasket."

OUCH!!!

12:46 AM  
Blogger Luke Chan said...

I find myself keep coming to your site - to listen to what you are saying. It means - good provocation - stirring up like Jesus would do.
So it's settled - we don't use F words to fit it or be cool. Cool !
Is there a law for not using the F word or how can it be a stumbling block for not using it or one that need to be broken - just by using it? Is "law " bad or being "legalistic" and "religious" bad? I think it's the latter.
Is it possible that "not using it" would get in the way of touching those who don't conform to your standards? - You are definitely not talking about yourself. Does anyone of us even dare to have any of our own standards at all? Have we not all fallen short? So really the bottom is not about the F word -
it is: - are we having a standard that could be higher/better than others. No! - we have all fallen short. F word users are not excluded. The only ones that are excluded are those who think that they are good enough.
Following a good law and of loving one's neighbour need not be exclusive? They can co-exist, right?
To the devout religious folks in the church or to those outside - the real question is "what is the most loving thing to do?" For both groups we need to be doing the most loving thing - and not have holier than thou attitudes, even if they are. Jesus loves his church and gave his life for her - can we love them and yet be angry with them for not being loving to those outside?

4:38 AM  
Blogger Remnant Sons MC said...

I dropped the f-bomb yesterday. forgot to pay something and it got cancelled. could have said something else. sometimes, certain words mean more in certain situations. after all...they are just words.

yep. pastors cuss to. most just don't admit it.

10:45 AM  
Blogger Saija said...

i have to weigh in here ...

your blog was one that i read all the time, Rick ... you made me think, etc. ... but then when you did that post with the dreaded "F" word, i have to admit you totally confused me ... to me you were just being contrary for the sake of it ... because "i can" then "i will" use it ... lets just shake up those fussy old church ladies and make them go "oh no, how terrible"...

Jesus did shake up "religious" people, he was against the "establishment" ... sure ... but my view of Jesus speech is a Man (note the word MAN) who spoke purely ... even when angry ... God is Holy ... everything that comes out of his mouth is pure ... and a crude word for the sexual act (because that's what the F word is, an ugly word for something pure that God ordained between a man and a woman), is not something that would come out of the Creator's mouth ...

so boys (note the word BOYS, instead of MEN) the word is crude and offensive when used in everyday language - especially if you know better ... if a person doesn't know any better ... that is another story ...

10:57 PM  
Blogger Rita said...

Actually, Rick, it's easier to follow Jesus than it is to settle.

Proverbs 2:12-13
12Wisdom will save you from evil people, from those whose speech is corrupt. 13These people turn from right ways to walk down dark and evil paths.

John 3:33-34
33Those who believe him discover that God is true. 34For he is sent by God. He speaks God's words, for God's Spirit is upon him without measure or limit.

John 14:10-11
10Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I say are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. 11Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of what you have seen me do.

Ephesians 4:29-30
29Don't use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them.
30And do not bring sorrow to God's Holy Spirit by the way you live. Remember, he is the one who has identified you as his own, guaranteeing that you will be saved on the day of redemption.

1:20 AM  
Blogger Debra said...

I agree with Saija and Rita and I'll just let these verses speak for themselves:

Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one... Matthew 5:37

Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not so to be. Does a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? .. James 3:10,11

To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech. Proverbs 8:13

For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak... Psalm 59:12

The wicked man's ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them.
His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity... Psalm 10:5,7

For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak... Psalm 59:12

Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness...There is no fear of God before their eyes... Romans 3:13,18

6:20 AM  
Blogger New Life said...

Thanks to all of you for your comments. I would not be contrary just because I can. I am sorry that my use of language was a stumbling block to my making my point. I was trying to make a point using the word. (Which you'll notice, I did not use.) I was attempting to say that some folks are more concerned about what one says that what one does. Often times, we make the outside of our cup so clean that we neglect the inside of the cup.

My post wasn't really about "the f-word". My post was about the church often gets caught up in its appearance and misses the point of how shocking our God is. God doesn't act like the devoutly religious folks expects. My point was and is that some are so focused on the "law" that they neglect loving the outsider and outcast. It really had very little to do with the f-word.

Thanks you all for your comments. I hope that this helps clear the matter.

To fear the LORD is to hate evil. What is evil? A cuss word or to allow people to starve to death. What is evil? A cuss word or to drive past the dirty homeless people on our way to church? What is evil? The reality that numerous folks have no health care or that someone says the f-word? That was my point.

Thanks again for all your comments and thoughts. I appreciate your taking the time to comment.

Rick

11:25 AM  
Blogger ~pen~ said...

i don't know what i enjoyed more, reading your original post or the comments that followed...

great way to end a really rough day. i'll be returning here, often, God (and rick) willing.

~peace~

11:14 PM  

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